Nurse Travels The Country To Ask Questions That Are Unanswered

@TrishulVadi:

So I am super excited today. I have got with me none other than Jennifer Platt, who is a nurse and she’s Juul, qualified nurses qualified in both meant Paul mentally mental health trained and in general adult trained as well. I has a massive passion of care for the elderly and end of life care. Jen often describes herself as an empath, alpha female. And I actually discovered Jenna, like early on this year and straight away when I saw Jen his Instagram handle, which is at that nurse who asks questions. So it’s that underscore nurse underscore who underscore underscore the questions that caught my attention straight away. And the reason Jen his account was with me was because in recent times there’d be a federal health professional. It’s been really difficult just simply to ask questions about the world and what’s been going on in the mainstream and anyone who knows me will know that’s just really weird for me. And to go, it goes completely against the grain for me. So it was only right that I invited you. And as you come and join me tonight and not need to connect with her but also to share with what Jen has been up to, and this past few months in line with this whole concept. So thank you so much, Jennifer, for coming and joining me today. And please, can you share with us what you’ve been up to around the country?

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Yeah, no, thank you very much for mean me. So I have been walking every city in England, Scotland and Wales plus a couple of towns and with a sandwich board that says nurses are scared to speak out. And how that, well, how that started originally for me to kind of take an action was I walked to London. So I walked from Stoke-on-Trent to London, which took me 10 days to hand deliver a letter to Boris Johnson, to discuss the breaches of the code of conduct, which is the nursing midwifery code of conduct. That was reported to me from thousands of nurses from all different backgrounds. So I felt really stuck. I felt like I needed to do something. I could see that there were lots of kind of rules in place that didn’t seem to make sense. And I felt like people were being dehumanized wearing the masks. So I needed to take some action. So I walked from Stoke-on-Trent to London that took me 10 days. And then Boris Johnson was actually in Stoke-on-Trent on day four. So I’m there plot into London. And then and then I went to hand deliver the letter a I’m hoping that, that like the guards would take it like pocket in and they wouldn’t accept it. So I had to post it anyway.

@TrishulVadi:

Why was that? Why would they not accept

Nurse Jenna Platt:

It? I don’t know if maybe they didn’t believe me. I don’t really know. Yeah. Yeah. So I made it, we just posted it. But what that did do well in those 10 days was it creates a community of people who were saying your seeing what I’m thinking. And that’s when the conversations really started to kind of like increase that all the nurses that had already been in touch with me. It, it, sorry, I don’t know whether it’s gone off on Tik TOK now, but that’s fine. You stopped on that. That’s fine. Yeah. All of the other nurses who had previously reached out to me now over nurses were more aware of me and it kind of, I guess that confirmation bias that, you know, there’s more people like this. There’s more people that are thinking like this they’ve got questions, but I’ve being bullied and ostracized.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

So that was the first thing that I did. And I also really struggled personally in the shops going shops, not wearing a mask. And at first I started, I was wearing a mask because I felt that it was helping people to feel more comfortable that were around me. But I got poached a couple of times I got shouted at and I was like, no, like I’m, I’m not, I can’t do this. I can’t try and make other people feel comfortable when it’s having a real negative impact on me. And I felt like, because my face was covered that people were able to, to attack me physically verbally. But then I had the hurdle of trying to go shopping with this. And that was really, really difficult. So I also did a lot of videos to help people go shop pet because a lot of people were contacting me and, you know, really disturbing stories where there was this one lady who had been a survivor of sexual assault just before lockdown, she then had to be isolated, you know?

Nurse Jenna Platt:

So there were no services. She was on her own. She was away from her friends and family after, you know, going through this trauma. And now she’s trying to get milk and bread and she’s got a security guard with no train, no therapeutical, possibly medical training saying, where’s your mask? Why aren’t you wearing one? And the trauma, you know, they’re reliving that trauma, sorry, every time she needed to go shop pen. And so I started to do videos around that to help people. And then again, I felt like I needed to do something else. So I attended the marches. You know, and I’ve got no shame in that I’m attending the March is to help support a nurse nurses I’m attending the March is because you shouldn’t feel like you’re going to be bullied or ostracized for asking questions. And I’m attending the March is because I want risk assessments.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

I want person centered care to be in place. And then it just didn’t feel enough. It felt like I needed to do something else. So I got the sandwich board and that was just from pure laziness because when I was holding my little plaque card, like I was so tired. So I got the sandwich board and then I stayed in London for two weeks for my sandwich board. The original plan was to walk 50 days in London. But it just felt like there was so much trying to grab people’s attention that I needed to get out. I needed to move on. And then I had so many people messaging me saying, oh, you know, like, it’d be great to meet you or I live here or are you visiting here? And I was like, actually, that’s what I’m going to do. So I decided to walk every city in England, Scotland and Wales. I was very proudly telling everyone that was 69. There wasn’t, there was 64. And so I made a mistake. So that’s why I’m being some towns as well to, to get the 69. And yeah, I’ve done all of Scotland. I’ve done all the Wales. Other than a good chunk of England, I’m on my, I’ve just done my 42nd city out of 69 today, which was Ellie, Ellie feelings.

@TrishulVadi:

Wow. So, so obviously, you know, travel something that you, you know, this whole COVID thing started with you traveling anyway, you went to India for a little while and we need to come cook cause that trip short and he came back to the UK, but what does your husband make of all this where you’re traveling around and how does he feel? Because I know of friends and family and have other couples where they have polarized views about all these sorts of things. And I’d be curious to know about what your husband makes off, what your opinion is and what you’re doing. And also just in terms of overseeing time away from each other for, for the amount of time that you dedicate into all this work.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Yeah. So I’m so lucky. Like I’m so, so lucky that me and my husband are well, one we’re able to disagree and that’s okay. You know, we’re able to have conversations that are uncomfortable and we are very aware, you know, we’ve got a lot of self-awareness, so each of us, you know, so yeah, w we’re able to disagree anyway, and there’s some things that we do disagree on, but the, for the majority, regardless of whether we agree or disagree, he supports me. And honestly, I’m going to do it anyway. I’m going to do it anyway. He knows that. But

@TrishulVadi:

Yeah, I can relate to that example, that, that feeling. I understand that.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Yeah. Like there’s, there’s little bits that maybe we don’t see eye to eye, but that like 90%, 95%. Yeah. We’re totally on the same page, which is a massive help. Because again, there’s people that have reached out to me, they’ve been married, you know, 20, 30 years the husband’s living upstairs and the wife’s living downstairs, you know, there’s this one lady who she was having a conversation like the, the divide between her, her and her husband. And she’s now got alopecia because she’s so stressed. And for me, like that experience is valid. Like, but for whatever reason, she’s not able to say, do you know what? I’m on a really rubbish time. I’m not able to communicate with my husband. My hair is falling out. My self-esteem is declined. You know, I’m feeling really low in mood because then people say, well, you’re not dead.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Well, she’s having a rubbish time. She’s allowing you to have that rubbish time and say it’s rubbish. But if anyone has got any different experience, that seems to be that knee-jerk response. And I’m so compassionate to people who have suffered or suffering due to the results of COVID. But I also see the bigger picture, like th th there’s, you know, if that she COVID patients like that, there’s this circle of people who we’re not giving any attention. We’re not given any emotion to. But yeah, but back to my husband, I’m very lucky during lockdown. So we got married January the second, 2020, and then I was going to India for five months to find myself, find myself because I’d already,

@TrishulVadi:

That’s just you, that’s just, oh my gosh.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Well, the, a little bit of the backstory is we’d actually split up for three years. And then he apologized. So we went primary school together. We went to high school together. We’d split up for three years. He apologized and then we got married 12 days later to Vegas.

@TrishulVadi:

So he knew each other since your primary school. I think he can have three years off in that time to be fair. Yeah.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

But I do take ticket to India. So I was already going. So it went from, in our heads being apart for another five moments to then being locked, locked down together and then live in and work and together 24 7 you know, we survived that we had, we, we had a great time, like, you know, we, we did loads of jobs in the house. You know, w we were able to spend 24 7 together and now it’s the complete opposite. Like we rarely see each other. And even when I’m back home, I’m doing my wash in checking upon emails, checking over messages, and then I’m fast asleep by eight o’clock. So yeah, for our relationship, you know, we are able to be joined at the hip or not see each other. So I’m very, very fortunate.

@TrishulVadi:

Amazing. I think that’s really important in any, and especially in the kind of thing that you’re doing right now, it just, you know, you need that support. Otherwise you need someone to lean on and understand your, your goals and what you’re doing. So that’s super cool. I’m excited to hear that. So definitely cool. What about in terms of one thing that’s, I guess concerning me is about the choice conversation, the pro-choice conversation. And when we get into this topic, they’ll people go, oh yeah, you guys are anti-vax people or conspiracy theories, and you’re branded with everything else under the sun. And it’s like, all we’re doing is just doing what I think has helped professionals. We know that we’ve always done with our patients is give them information and they make the choice. We can’t assume paternalism. So certainly not since Montgomery law came into place a few years ago.

@TrishulVadi:

What, what are your thoughts on, I don’t know. I guess I’m asking you you’re, I guess you’re the person asking the questions I’m missing asking you how do you feel and where do you think things are gonna go with regards to if the whole nursing profession who has, because that’s already happened in, in certain parts of the healthcare industry already. So how do you feel, or what do you, anything’s going to go where if nurses are going to be asked, when you’re going to have to have them, you’re going to have to vaccine it’s mandatory now.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Yeah. I’m very concerned about that. Very concerned about it for several reasons. That one, I don’t think it’s a case of a pro and a con line down the middle of a piece of paper. This is the processes, the condoms. I think it’s so much more complex than that. And one of the conversations that I’ve heard is experienced intensive care nurses on vaccinated. It being suggested that they are replaced by inexperienced vaccinated nurses. And this is all about patient safety, patient safety. Isn’t, what’s injected into my body. Patient safety is about the experience, the rapport, the, the, even just knowing where things are, especially in intensive care, you’ve got so many drawers, you know, you’ve got so many different alarms, you know, just knowing the team, the rapport with the team, patient safety. Isn’t one thing. And that’s concerning to me and not just an intensive care, you know, if you think about areas, people who support individuals with learning disability, you know, they’re probably there for a long time.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

They’ve built up a rapport over years. They they’ve managed to support the individual with communication, if there’s communication barriers. And now you’re saying that that nurse should go and somebody else should come. Even though that patient’s got a rapport with them, and they’re able to communicate with them, I it’s so much more complex than if you don’t have it. You’re not caring. And, and fortunately, I think the media hysteria has created just a black and white picture. You have it, you care, you don’t, you don’t have. And what I’m finding while I’m walking is people will say, I support the nurses. I support the nurses. I support the nurses. What, what are you talking about? So I tell them what I’m talking about. And I’m like, oh no, where you’ll support the nurses. When all you have to say is, yeah, you deserve a bigger pay rise, but you won’t support the nurse when it’s a little bit uncomfortable, or we have to consider like outside or knowledge of what, cause while, while I’m walking, people are repeating the same responses to me.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

The vaccine is only the vaccine is the only way out. And you know, the only thing that those people have in common is the tele. So as I’m walking around and seeing all these different people, they are repeating the same objections to me. So I’m really, really concerned that it’s a very complex decision, patient safety. A very complex scenario has been given to simplified solution. You have this UK you’re safe. You don’t, you don’t. And yeah, there’s so many different levels to it. So I’m very concerned that many experienced nurses, not just nurses, but I talk about nurses. But care assistants, physios, OTs, you know, the whole multidisciplinary team. I’m very concerned that we’re going to have a dropout of very experienced staff or we’re going to have very low staff morale because people feel like they’ve done something that they didn’t necessarily want to do. And

@TrishulVadi:

What would you say to people who say, but Virginia, your hand don’t mean any disrespect to you, but if they were to say to you, be good as a nurse, what would you know about immuno immunology, not an immunologist? What would, you know, what would you say to them going, what you’re you have? No, you have no voice in this, in this, in this space because, well, why would you, you’re not, you don’t expert. Yes. You’re in healthcare, but that, you know, then you’ll get tarnished with all the little bit of knowledge of dentistry, just because you’re a health professional doesn’t mean everything about health, but what do you, you know, clearly you do clearly it, we, we, we will make decisions every day with our patients or a number of different things. How do you, how do you respond to someone like that? So

Nurse Jenna Platt:

I think we’ve never had that before. So we’ve never had vaccines and needed somebody to tell us what to do. We’ve always yelled to make our own decisions regardless of our qualifications. So, you know, we can, I’ve had conversations where people aren’t allowed to have discussions in the staff room, unless it’s in a positive light. So, you know, be in a staff room and stuff. We’re talking about the vaccine and the manager will say, you can only speak to me about that. That’s never happened before, you know, from a female point of view, we’ll be in a staff room and be like, you know, what contraceptive worked for you? What did that do for you? Like how would that make you feel? And we’ll have conversations and we’ll have that kind of peer experience. And that will be part of us making a decision will be the full part, but it will be part and that’s not allowed to happen anymore. So, you know, when making decisions about contraception, we don’t need to be experts in fertility or experts, you know like with implants and things like we’re able to make a decision and we’re able to talk to an expert, come away and then weigh up the pros and cons for it. We’ve always been able to do this with every other decision.

@TrishulVadi:

Nutrition is another thing that comes to mind in that respect. You know, we, we all have a view and opinion and an understanding of nutrition. We didn’t have to be a nutritionist. You had to be a dietician. You can make it. I get it.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Exactly. So, so that would be my first thing that we’ve never, we’ve never needed to be handheld by scientists before. And then the other thing is if we only listen to scientists, we have blind spots because scientists think like scientists. And like I said, about the COVID patients and then all the other patients like that, there’s not just one part to this puzzle that there’s other parts. And, you know, the way that, the way that you would speak to your patients or have a conversation, I might pick something up differently because we’re not thinking the same. It doesn’t mean that one’s better or worse. It just means that we were coming from different angles. And by working together with both of our expertise, we’re able to reduce the amount of blind spots in order to help the patients best. So yeah, one we’ve never needed it before. All these experts and also we’ve, we’ve, we’ve always had multidisciplinary discussions because we’ve always respected different points of view and different experiences. Okay.

@TrishulVadi:

And what do you, what do you think about this? Obviously we’re in the summer holidays now and kids are off school, but there’s this talk about? Oh yeah. Now what wasn’t the case was when the vaccine first came out, oh, children won’t need it because there’s such low risk. Like with anything, we weigh up risks versus benefits. We’re seeing and hearing reports of various responses or reactions to people getting the vaccine. And now they’re talking about possibly making mandatory for children. How does that make you feel? What’s conversations out there in what you’ve been on your walks and met people around the country was what’s the feeling around that at the moment.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

So what I’m. So I talk about informed voluntary decision-making so I have got no problem in people making a choice that’s right for them, because I don’t want people taking my choice away from me, even though it might be different. So I talk about informed, voluntary decision making for adults. And it has to be voluntary. I’m completely anti coercion, but when it goes to the children, although I don’t have my own children, although I’m not a pediatric nurse or a midwife or a health visitor, I am very, very concerned at the talk about vaccine in the children. We don’t know the long-term risks for adults yet. I’ve heard a lot of people and hypothetically speak about, oh, but then, you know, the children will get it and pass it on to the, to the elderly for so long, we’ve spoke about letting children be children and, you know, not putting too much pressure on them.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

They’ve already got a lot of pressure because of social media. They’ve already got a lot of pressure because of exams. And now we’re giving them pressure not to kill their grandma or not kill someone that they might, you know, in like the logic behind. It really concerns me. And it really concerns me the tunnel vision that some people have got about. And I’ve heard them say in a lot don’t then a children’s keep the apples warm. I personally think we should be protecting the children from this. I don’t even think, you know, they should be aware of it, but I don’t think they should be concerned about it. I don’t think it should be a worry for them. I think we should be protecting the children at all costs. So I’m very concerned about that. Talk, but word on the street while I’m walking around is the children will unite those.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

That’s why I think we can agree with, I think we can agree on two things from while I’m walking one, the vaccine passports, people don’t want them. And two, the children don’t need it. Now that’s from people who have had the vaccine who had the vaccine who are thinking, I might have it, everyone that I’m speaking to, and that I don’t even know how many people that is, but everyone I’m speaking to is saying the children don’t need it. So I do believe the children, you will unite apples. And I think that, whereas it feels right now that we’re quite polarized. I think the children will we’ll narrow that gap. That’s made me feel

@TrishulVadi:

That’s nice thing to even think about just because the children are going to help us out out this way. That’s really nice. It’s sweet. It’s really sweet about that actually. So in kind of almost sense of hope, I guess, is, well, that makes me feel like, and on that point in terms of, you know, for children, the past was 18 months give or take is a, is a big chunk of their life so far. And in something that you’re a bigger expert than I am is in mental health. And what is, what is your take on, on the effects of what on, on the last 18 months on mental health and children at the moment. And I get, there’s a range of ages in there. So there’s a very broad range of ages, but just generally speaking what’s what’s, I guess there’s two parts. The question actually one part is what do you think affects up? Secondly, what can parents do? What can families do to help the children from the mental health point of view?

Nurse Jenna Platt:

So I think, and again, because I’m not a pair and it is difficult for me to say because people will take different risks, but I, if I had a child, I would be trying to live life as normal as possible within the restrictions. And, you know, for compassionate reasons, I don’t remember, I’m allowed to say on the show, but for compassionate reasons, it I’m high professionally speaking, not because I don’t have children, but if I felt that it would help the child to go and see their grandparents during one of the lockdowns, I would, I would take it because I think there’s going to be so many people. I don’t want to go upstairs and there’s gonna be so many people that after this, once we’ve kind of reached that equilibrium of whatever the new normal is that are going to reflect on this time and they’re going to be so mad, they’re gonna be so mad.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Why didn’t I just go, why didn’t I just get in the car? Why did I let my child forget who their grandparent is? Like, why didn’t I let the grandparent meet the child in the first year of its life? There’s, there’s going to be so much anger, I think, and regret once we’re out with this pickle. So I think for me, not that I’ve told him, I would be trying to get them to live as normal life as possible and making them aware, but not, not in fear. And what was the first part of the question? Because I forgot just the

@TrishulVadi:

Effect or the effect of this, I guess the ultimate thing with his children becoming adults at some point, what’s that going to look like in the future? Yeah. So

Nurse Jenna Platt:

People are talking to me about communication. So from very small children, the impact it has on communication, the impact is having on relationships there’s children. So I’ve seen it where I’ll be walking around and siblings will be arguing with each other, like who gets to use the hand gel first.

Speaker 3:

Hey, what

Nurse Jenna Platt:

And then, you know, it’s almost like they’re a good child, like, oh, you know, please, please, please, mom, please. And then the mum praises them. So then they do it even more because it’s like, oh, I got praised when I do this. So, you know, I think the child’s priorities and concern about always being scared, be scared of some that you can’t see be scared because people are wearing masks, be scared because it might go on your hands, even though you can’t see it. There’s been social workers who have been in tears talking to me because they can’t enter the homes and they know that that child needs them. There’s been teachers who are seeing that not only are children wiping the tabletops, but they’re wiping every tea table leg, they’re wiping the chair. And then the wipe and every child lag in a very ritualistic way before they’ll sit down and eat the food.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

You know, there’s people who have got lots of emotion now, criminal anger, because they’re not able to communicate that and why they feel like that. And also just from a kind of like energetic point of view where these little kids, I’ve got so much energy that they’re now being told, stay in doors, stay in doors, you know, get on your iPad and not have those social interactions. So I, yeah, I’m concerned about the children a lot and this, and really silly, but throughout lockdown, my husband put all the petrol in the car. I didn’t go to the petrol station once. And I can’t remember where I was driving to and I forgot to put petrol in the car. I could not remember what to do now. This is going for me, traveling around India on my own to call it, remember how to put petrol in the car. And if it’s D skilling me as an adult, who’s had lots of years practice putting petrol in the car. What is it doing to turn that haven’t had this amount of practice?

@TrishulVadi:

Yeah. So I, I mean, the thing that just comes to mind is about, you know, with tactile beings on we, and I think where we’re not able in my work, you know, I touch people. We know we, we work physically on, on people and, you know, I was busy lockdown because people were losing their sense of touch. And I think that was part of it. And I think that does concern me too with, with children, losing that in that suite, that doesn’t concern me if you’ve lost, if you’ve forgotten how to fill up petrol in that short amount of time, what’s he going to do with children? Who’ve not really had a sense of how to interact as humans in person. And yeah, that is, that is really worrying. And how has your work with the promotion of tell me more about the stand in the park promotion, like promoting that you’re doing, or it’s tell me all about it.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Yeah. So as I’m walking around, so what I’m seeing is so much divide, so much divide, so much polarization there’s conversations where people are saying, oh, he’s not double back. She can’t come in. Oh, I don’t want to see the grandkids unless you get tested like that. There’s so much divide right now. There’s a lady who her granddaughter came to meet me and her 90 plus 92, I think 91 to come home now. Grandma had had the first vaccine, had a seizure falling down the stairs and broke her femur. Didn’t want the second one because of the, the effect that it had on her. I know her friends and family were uncommon. See ya. So, so when I was in that city, so it was insane asset in Wales, I was like, oh, I’ll go for a brew. So let me walk the city. And then I’ll, I’ll come to have a bruise. So I went and met her and it was great. And she, you know, I love hearing like the stories and like seeing her wedding picture and her telling me about that.

Speaker 3:

But the

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Reason why I’m saying that is about the disconnect that people are having with each other. Which I don’t think I, well, I hope I never see this again. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it before. And I don’t think, I hope never to see it again. How polarized people are, but what lockdown has done I feel for the first time is it’s being able to say, I got no friends I’m alone. I feel lost right now. And as a result of that, rather than living this hashtag best life ever hashtag because my coffee of the day or whatever on Instagram, people have been able to say, what do you know what I haven’t got any friends actually, or the friends I’ve got around me. We actually haven’t gotten much in common and stand in the park is started in Australia. And every Sunday, 10:00 AM the list is on the website it’s done in the park.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

People just meet up for a coffee, chit chat on sensitive conversation. And as I walk in each city, when I walk on a Sunday, I’ll start from a different stand in the park just to raise as much awareness as possible because I think it’s amazing. I think it’s amazing. And I wish I thought about it cause I wouldn’t need to walk all the cities. Like I think it’s just really an idea. Well the people that I’ve met, ah, the friendliest, most helpful welcoming people. So for me, I’m trying to raise as much awareness as possible that you don’t have to feel alone. You can go, we can, you know, just have a look on their Facebook and get involved with the chit chat first. And people will just welcome you and it’s, it’s brilliant. So yeah, I start in the park every Sunday, 10 till 11, or they know they normally go on longer. And the people will be like a bandstand, the cafe or a Memorial, but the it’s on their website and whereabouts

@TrishulVadi:

Super cool. And I think that really struck me about when I first found out, I was like, wow, that nurse, that, that nurse Jenner she’s brave too. Like, so ahead about the parfait kind of, oh right. You know what, you know, it’s it’s where did that come from in general, not bravery, courage, that strength.

Speaker 3:

So I’ve

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Always been able to, I say like fight for the underdog. Like I’ve always been able to defend somebody else when I’ve seen something that I perceive as wrong and, but not for myself. So this is where like the alpha empath, alpha female empath comes from. Like, I’m very empathetic and that’s my natural default position. But because of that, I didn’t set clear boundaries. I allow people to walk all over me. And that’s where the alpha female comes in, where I’m like, no, I’ve learned how to do this. Now I’m, you know, super assertive. I’m very compassionate and you can be those things in one. So I went from being able to, I guess, protect and defend of, of people. And sometimes they didn’t ask me to, so I actually had to learn that not everyone wants that because they might actually be getting something out with our situation, even though it’s not right for me to then learn and how to defend myself and learning how to stick up for myself.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

And yeah, I guess, I don’t know. A lot of people say that it’s brave, but honestly like when I’m walking around, I’m in some of the most beautiful places with some of the most amazing people having a bit of a coffee and a chit chat. And I think, I just even forget that I’m wearing a sandwich board. Like, it just feels like this is just what I do now. When people say like, oh Jen, you’re so brave. Honestly, I feel like a bit of a fraud because I’m literally just talking to people and having conversations. So I feel, I do feel like a bit of a fraud because it just feels like the right thing to do. And I want it to empower people that, so you, you mentioned my husband before and by, are we on the same page? Like he is the statistics guy. He’s the numbers guy. Like that’s how his brain works. My works with people and communication support together. Like we can have these conversations. So I want it to empower people to say, you don’t have to be a scientist. You don’t have to remember statistics. You can do something and it’s whatever you can do. It’s in your power and control. And for me, it’s walking and talking, I can do that. I can do that really easily. And that’s probably why it doesn’t feel great because it comes like I can walk it up and talk.

@TrishulVadi:

What would you say to I guess two groups, I see three groups of people out there. I see the ones that are really speaking out about everything. There are groups that want to speak about outbound things and they feel they can’t in a public setting. And then there’s those who feel completely on the other side of all this. And we go, no, no, no, we’ve got to do this to the other. We’ve got to follow the rules and all this sort of thing. I’m not suggesting that we break the law and break the rules. That’s not my suggestion. My suggestion is why don’t we just question it as just ask the question, that’s it. We’re not going to go against it just so we understand, maybe I don’t know. So what would you say to the latter two groups there? First to ones that do want to speak out are on the same wavelengths and just feel they can’t ask the questions even about what’s going on, whether it’s is right where the law sits in this, I mentioned Montgomery dwell you. And I’m like, where’s that going in? All this? And, and, and things of that nature.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Yeah. So I think with the people who maybe don’t have anything to say, or haven’t actually questioned, if there is anything wrong about what’s going on. Someone said to me that the truth can’t be told it has to be learned. So I think until it personally impacts them, that’s when they’ll start asking questions and someone made a very, very good point in the day when I was walking about the waiting list. So if it is that someone is now on the waiting list for a very long time, they’re probably going to start asking questions because they’ve done everything. They’ve, you know, they followed all the rules. If not seeing the family, they’ve had both the vaccines, they been wearing the masks, and now they’ve got to wait X amount of months or years. I don’t know how long the list is for certain things.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

So I think when there’s a personal pain, that’s when people start to ask questions, if they haven’t already. And I think with the middle group, it’s, it’s a case of dipping your toe in. So the reason why I have my content, the way I do is because while I don’t do statistics, I’d never remember them. And you only have to get one wrong for someone to discredit you, but I try and make content where a nurse can go into a staff room and say what you think about that nurse. So they don’t have to say, oh, look at this nurse. I agree with you. And she say him, but they can dip the toe in and asked that question. What do you think about this nurse? And then from that colleague response, then going to ask, okay. Yeah. when we’re not on the same page at all, but there’s no argument.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

And I think finding common ground is really important. So a really easy one for me is so, you know, the mask wearing Everett to walk into the pool and then you take it off to sit down. Does that make sense to you? And then you, from that common ground, you can build from that. I always say that you can’t learn Russian in an hour. So just because I have been feeling like this for 16 months or reading about it for 16 months or speaking to people about it for 16 months, if this is the first time you’ve had that conversation, I can’t then give you 16 months of information and get annoyed with you when you shut off and walk away. So I understand a lot of people get frustrated with me because they’re like, oh, well, you know, this has to be done. We have to do it this way. I’m like, well, that person’s closed off. Now they’ve closed off. They’ve shut off from the conversation for me. It’s about sparking that curiosity of thinking actually. Yeah. Why do we stand up, sit down. Like, why do we do that? And then building on that,

@TrishulVadi:

Amazing, any closing thoughts or anything that you’d like people to do to help in whatever we can to get all of us out of this and go back to normal, whatever that means anymore. I’m not sure if there is a normal, what the new normal is, is as a new normal is the old normal, whatever that normal is, if there ever was a normal in the first place, but any final thoughts then Jenna. Yeah, I think

Nurse Jenna Platt:

I do think the children will unite. I really do. And one of the reasons why you think that is well is because both of the groups, again, it’s very polarized, but the people that are speaking to me who would say I’m a vaccine, or I have had my vaccine and I, you know, so it’s, this is what’s been reported to me as those two groups of people. But I also think that people will feel safer putting the use across with the children. And what I mean by that is they might not want it themselves, but don’t feel they can say it out loud. But I think that people will be able to say, I don’t want my child to have it. So I think lots more conversations are going to be had when it comes to the children. So I guess what I would say is in order to make an informed decision, you should be able to say yes, no, and not right now, anything past that is coercion.

Nurse Jenna Platt:

And one of the things that someone said to on Instagram is if you can’t accept my no, how can you accept my yes. And I think it’s about challenging what’s happening. And I think finding those connections so that you gain confidence that, you know, you’re not on your own because while I’m walking the streets, people are approaching me that I would have just walked past otherwise. So I think finding connection locally is really, really important for people right now, so that you can have those conversations and wanting to healthcare. And that the vaccine, honestly, I don’t know what the rules are or the exemptions or anything like that. But I think document everything, get you contract, have a look at your policies, a have a look@acast.com, which is support like foldings. And, and when you get all the information, I think people are in a better position to start asking questions and to the employer,

@TrishulVadi:

You could just go back to, was it a cast.com? You just cut out there for a moment. So [inaudible] dot com. Was it, was it eight or you just cut out, but there was a guest.com,

Nurse Jenna Platt:

Right? Yeah. It comes.com medical freedom Alliance.

@TrishulVadi:

Perfect. Amazing. Thank you so much for your time today, Jenna. I really appreciate you taking out the time to speak with me and sharing your message about what you’re doing. And I hopefully we’ll connect again and, and see where we are in a few weeks or months and, and, and pick up things again.

Your Health Is Like This Key Ring

So, what does key ring have to do with your health? Well, let me explain. See, I got these, this key ring. I had it for a little while now. And when I first got it right when I first got it, it was like so tough to push that came with a bunch of different colors. And one of the most things snap, because it was so hard to push and I was like, man is so, so, so difficult to use. Like, how come I can't just use it properly. It was only the other day when I accidentally flicked

His little black bit here. When I pick that,

Oh my gosh, I thought, well, no, a broken another one. And then I realized, hang on a second. Maybe that's meant to click around as, as I can click it into place so that it holds the keys where it should be. And I'll say, oh my gosh, where were the instructions for those key, for this cheering? I didn't come with any instructions. I think they thought, oh yeah, you know, people will be able to figure it out. But I was like, oh my gosh, there's so many people like you walking around without instructions for your body. You don't know how to make it work. And you need someone like me

To come in and show you, Hey, let me just click

You back into place so that you know how to fix yourself and work. There you go. So the thing is, is that we don't have a manual. We don't have any set of instructions. You need someone to show you how you work as that's what I think is very much like just hearing. And if no one had taught me, the only way I'm going to find out is by making mistakes and breaking things and learning from experience for the faster way to learn anything is by other people's experience. Other people telling you. So think about what else is it about your life and about your health that you don't have any instructions for a manual for

Yet will be really useful

To have someone show you or tell you, or you know, how to use things correctly. Would that be useful? You know, I mean, it's, it's crazy. So as you're finding me say that I do have you know, there's a famous company, I think called the Haynes manual. I believe they make all these manuals about vehicles and cars and things. And I actually found along the many years ago when they created for fun about the human body and I was like, wow. Yeah, that's true. We don't come out with a manual. How things work, no one ever tells us we should do this and do that. And also then we have the challenge of things changing all the time. And the body hasn't really evolved that much in recent few hundred years. It really hasn't changed that much. What we do to it has changed. So that's where we're starting to see things happen. How we discover things with technology and science has progressed to scan the body better and do those different things. Dastardly helps, but the body is still the body. You still have to utilize in certain ways. There's certain laws and of the body that in nature that can violate. And if we do

Then you're screwed. So think about

What it is. For example, sitting sitting is the new smoking. We sit now, whenever now here's the other thing, by the way, I have some patients coming in to see me and they go, oh, I know why the problem of what problem we're problem. Because I sit all day in office. Yeah. They could come in with exact same problem as somebody else. Let's say a builder who's active all day lifting, moving, twisting, denoting, the blessing problem. So is it a sitting or is it the overactivity or actually, is it neither? I have other patients come along and say, oh yeah, I know I've got this because of old age. How did this morning when my patients go, oh yeah, it's getting, cause I'm getting older and it really well, you might be 60, 70. Yeah. I see. 20 year olds have the same problem. I see.

10 year olds, the same problem. I see. 40 years. And same problem. So knee age has no number of factor. So let's swap that out. We into this crazy hypnosis in this community, in the world of like, oh yeah, it's because of this. And because of that, and then was crazy. It was really crazy is when we're desperate seeking help and trying to figure it out, we're looking to the wrong places. We ended up asking our friends, oh yeah, my friend had that problem. And they did this. They did that. It's no longer specific. There's so many other variables that we'll consider. Like you're just hearing, this is a really unusual hearing. This is a weird, it's a different. And so, you know, there's a specific way of using this key ring and it doesn't work the same way other ones do. So if I use a different key ring, then I might have an experience with that, that one hearing.

So what you want to do is go to a hearing expert who might have more experience. And then the same thing with this. You want to go to a health expert, who's got more experience about treating different people, different ways and so on. So that's when we leave you with my thought of the day to day is how your hearing's or hearing or hearing or any hearing or make hearing is the same as your body and your health. So I hope you enjoy this. Please do make sure you subscribe and turn on notifications. Leave me a comment below. I love reading your comments so I can help serve more. And I hope you have an awesome, awesome, awesome day.

Your Research Is Wrong

So here we are again, on a lovely evening, and I want to be talking about what research is, what it isn’t, how you can use research in your own mind, in your own life to help out with regards to what you’re looking for. So for example, you know, the reason I’m talking about this is because I had a patient come to see me last week or week before. And they came along and they were like, yeah, I get it. I got the treatment plan. I’ve been to other practitioners before. I understand that, you know, I need to get my back sorted. I need to get the back pain fixed and so on. Hey, just one thing. Can you do me a favor? Can you just write down the diagnosis for me? I’m like, cool. I’ll write it down for you.

I just want to do some research. So when this research, before I stopped, I’m like, Hey, that’s fine. By the way, whilst you do your research, if you want me to send you anything that might aid you, it is your research. Let me know now, respectfully this person wasn’t in the same field as me. So they didn’t really know what they were looking for. But anyway, I’ll say, listen, you’re you’re right. You’re, you’re a patient. And you have a right to say, yes, no, just treatment when you’re under barista and so on. So you’ve got to respect that. And the reason they said they didn’t want any of my health is because they work in a, in a, in a job where they have access to research articles. I’ll split it that way. And then I got worried. I got worried when they said that, because I was like, well, hang on a second.

Just because you’re able to read research articles that are likely done in a more clinical type environment or not in the field as such necessarily not always when necessarily, you know, typically what is that going to really tell you? How much does it give you? And by the way, research is one part of official research, published research is one part of how you come to clinical decisions and how you decide what’s right for the person in front of you. Yeah, no, how I choose to use the word person, because that’s how I treat my patients or my guests. I actually like to call them into my clinic, but we treat people, we look after people. And so, so it got me worried because I also have heard this term thrown about so loosely over the years, you know, whether you look at it in the media, or you look at it in conversation, you know, our research says, this says that, oh, isn’t it true that the quality of research for manual therapy is poor, but there’s a problem with this.

You see, because in terms of the entire research world, well, I considered the gold standard in terms of healthcare research to be the double blind trials. So what this means, the double blind trial is essentially where you’d have a potential patient. And you’ve got a person who is going to buy a sham treatment or a real treatment. We don’t know which of those two it is. So the researcher who’s sitting in the room back there would tell the, the, the person in the treatment, Hey, go give this tablet to that patient. And so the person giving the tablet doesn’t know if it’s a real chemical drug or whether it’s some sort of like a placebo, like a sugar pill, that’s called a double, double blind trial. Now, when you’re doing manual therapy, hands-on work. If I was the practitioner and a researcher told me, Hey, listen, you’ve got to do sham treatment.

It no longer becomes a double blind trial because I’m, I know if I’m performing a real treatment or a sham treatment. So in the world of research, suddenly that quality of research drops down to here is deemed. So we’ve got to then be careful about that bit of research. You’re right. If I expand that now, what’s the quality of research in that world? That’s number one. First of all, that’s number one thing. Second thing. What I’m a big advocate of is also how, when we take research and apply it in the field, what the results are like, you know, does it work? Does it not? And so as that’s called anecdotal research, and because for me, it’s all about if I can change that one person’s life, they don’t really care. Oh yeah. This can help in one, in 1,001 in 10,001 in a hundred and care about that.

But that one person cares, wow, you changed my world. So why would I give up on someone if I can change this one person’s life? So that’s super cool. So anecdotal research is a separate thing that often gets cost aside because we think, oh, it’s not got a good quality research, actually one person. Well, it’s life-changing. And so the thing is, is that then you’ve got people who will just simply Google things or search on a search engine or ask a few of their friends. Now, I don’t mean any disrespect, but unless your friends or colleagues, your ability to search on search engines is high quality enough to then be able to match and mirror the experience the, the, the, the education, all that sort of stuff. And by the way, an expert isn’t someone who gets it right, but knows what to do when things go wrong.

So you want to be going to the right expert for this thing. So I wanted to ensure that, you know, we’re not getting lost with this word research and getting lost with what it actually means. What research actually means is it’s much more complicated than that. And it’s too broad a word to just go, oh yeah. Research says, because we’ve got to be taking some time to consider what type of research it is, how does it apply to me? What are the chances of these things working for me, not working for me and so on. And having that conversation with someone who is, who actually is an expert in the field, what, what results have they had? What is their anecdotal research in terms of the results we’ve had when we’ve applied? In fact, it’s true. We, when we’ve applied, published research, as in peer review journals, I’ve applied some of those techniques and ways of working in our, in our connection, man, we’ve been blown away by the results.

One particular example of this, which actually is a double blind trial of manual therapy using an instrument. And I’m such a big fan of this now, and you can do a double blind trial because simply, but you can in this instrument, which does an adjustment and treats the body, it can actually make it so that it doesn’t do anything. And so therefore you’ve got the researcher telling the PR practitioner, he goes to perform, do treatment on this person. And the person performing doesn’t know whether it’s going to work or doesn’t work. This is the kind of thing that I get really excited about. So I think we’re going to take a much broader view of what research is, how it affects, what decisions we’re making clinically and also for our personal lives as well. So I hope you found this useful. I’m hoping that you’re now able to see research in a different light than you did before. And also, I want you to come back tomorrow. I want to tell you all about how a key ring has got something to do with your own health. So make sure you follow me and make sure you are turning on the notifications. So you don’t miss any of my broadcasts and I’ll see you next time. Peace out people.

Preparing For A Winning Week

I was preparing for my Sunday evening ritual and I thought, “Hey, you know what? This might be valuable to some people out there.” 

So here’s the thing : we are prepared for an amazing week. The way I get ready for it is actually it doesn’t start on a Sunday. 

It starts way before, even like sometimes Friday evening, sometimes it might be on a Saturday and I would just start preparing, reviewing, thinking about what happened in the past week, past few days and start thinking about why to plan for next week already. 

So then what starts happening from a Friday evening? Saturday afternoon time is when I’ll start thinking about, okay, what do I need to do on a Sunday? What do I need to get taken care of? If I need to, I’m going to read something, listen to him, watch something, learn something. Do I need to write something? Do I need to create something?

What do I need to do to get me ready for the week ahead? I’ll have a look to see what meetings I have with the head who I’m going to be speaking with and my team as well. And this is really important. I’m a big believer in you are only as good as your team. And so we get our team at the clinic to prepare themselves mentally as well for the week ahead. So we’ll get them to send us information about what their goals are for that week ahead. And so I will read that first thing on a Monday morning. So that’s one thing that I leave sort of a little bit last minute, but I prepared everything else for myself. So for example, I’ll ensure that I’ve eaten right over the weekend. Now eating right, first of all means either having highly nutritious food, but it also sometimes means I just want to splurge, want to eat stuff that I shouldn’t be eating, but I enjoy eating and it makes me feel good.

So I’ll do that sometimes. I should quite a lot to be fair. Other things I’ll do to prepare myself are to make sure that it really stretches out my body during the week. I have long, long days. So I find it hard to always get the time to stretch out my body as much as I want. It really takes me a good 30 to 45 minutes to stretch everything. And normally during the week, I’ll do a quick hybrid version of that if I haven’t got time, but I’ll do something. But definitely during the week, during the weekend, especially on a Sunday morning, I will ensure I stretch out every single part of my body because I use physical movements. I have physical techniques and it’s important that I I’m able to use my body to perform the techniques that I need to perform so I can get the best outcome from our clinical goals that we have with our patients, but also with regards to being physically active during the day, you know, I’m not at a desk all day long, I’m on my feet all day long.

I clock easily 12 to 14,000 steps a day just being at work. And that’s, you know, that’s physically can be a little bit taxing on my feet and my legs and my back as I want to make sure I look after myself. So that’s a few things I will do. And then of course I definitely want to make sure that I block out time like today. I had planned to do a whole bunch of stuff and things didn’t always go to plan and we ended up going to the supermarket for longer than we planned to end up buying so much stuff. And I just took that as well. Yeah, that’s cool. That’s just a little bit of family time preparing to buy stuff for the week. So I didn’t have to be running out of food and doing an extra last minute shop in a week that I didn’t have to, it takes out time for my day.

So these sorts of things are important as well, just to make sure that I’ve got it right. So it’s like this, this is really important to me. They say, you know, failing to prepare is preparing to fail. It’s so true. And it makes me feel like, you know, we, we just need to take some time. So it’d be like I always like to use, and I like to use the idea of a, a bow and arrow and sometimes the arrow needs to get pulled back further away so that it can be launched further forward. And I take the weekends or what I like to call a strong ENS. That’s something from Jim Rome. And I like to prepare for things in that sense. I also like to make sure that, you know, things that I didn’t get done in the last week that I will try and see where I can fit it in, in this week, because every week it’s not perfect as, as much as I’d love for it to be things aren’t always great.

And so I’ve got to make sure that, okay, what do I do now? Do I need to adjust it? Is that important? I like to use the ideas of, you know, what’s important urgent compared to what’s important and not urgent compared to what’s urgent and not important. And then what’s not important and not urgent is that quadrant if you guys have ever seen that, that’s really cool. I love using that. And it really gets me focusing my attention and my goals of getting things. So feel free to write in the comments, any questions you have, anything that I can help with, anything that I’ve used or anything that you’ve found that’s been helpful, it would help me. I’d love to learn from you. I’d be happy to take that on, but certainly there’s a few things I’d like to do and over keep adapting and tweaking it.

I think there isn’t a perfect way to prepare. Sometimes I look at all these mentors and successful people around the world, and I think about what’s the goal. What’s the, what’s the morning routine. Like what’s the evening routine, like what’s the weekend routine, like, and, or strong and routine like, and and sometimes, you know, you got to keep tweaking it and adapting it depending on what’s going on, what goals you’re trying to achieve. Sometimes, like this morning, we did not go to plan at all for me. So I woke up a little bit later than I was planning to. And then suddenly I just, well, you know, Coleman was awake and I thought, well, I just want to hang out with her for a little bit and just, you know, just dawdle about and just don’t really do much. And then when know, calling members of our family and catching up with them on FaceTime, and then it ends up becoming like 10 or 11 o’clock and I hadn’t even gone for a run yet where normally I’ve done my run by 6:00 AM and I’ll say, wow, I’m even done that yet.

And so I was like, oh, okay. Procrastinating and kept procrastinating. And I was like, look at the weather. And I was like, oh my gosh, she’s going to rain in like an hour or so. So I need to go now, cause I’d rather rain in the running than the rain. And so things like that, I had to just find ways that would get me back on track because I knew it was important for me to get my run done today. Because if I didn’t do it today, one day becomes two and suddenly two becomes a week and then a week becomes a month. And before you know it, you haven’t even done what you want to do. So I was like, man, his first of the month, it’s Sunday, I’ve got to go and just make this happen. And all the time, all the while I was like, and actually, funnily enough, I didn’t sleep so well.

We wrote for a couple of hours in the middle of the night because there was some noise from the neighbors and we could hear all sorts of things outside. I thought, oh man, we’re awake now, but I didn’t let that affect me. And then sometimes, you know, suck it down to discipline. You know, we have to get, we have to learn to be disciplined and do things when we don’t feel like doing, because we have to get done at some point. And then whether you get them done, somebody else that’s important. But also because I can’t delegate my running to somebody else, so I have to do it myself. That’s something that you have to get done. And so that was important that I learned that lesson. It changes your mindset, switches things going. Yeah. You know what, even if it’s late, better, late than never, but earlier than on time, I always believe.

But you know, sometimes it isn’t good to plan and, you know, reflect on things that have happened in a week. And, and one of the things that comes to mind is, you know, patients or people I’ve met, who just dabble, who just kind of, you know, they think they’ve gone through certain things. They think they’ve, you know, the answers and, and they seek help initially, but don’t quite, don’t quite take on board everything and then don’t get the results. And I’m like, man, I wish she just knew that we could have prevented this from beginning. We could have prepared for this beforehand. And actually, what did we prepare for it not to get even worse the next time round? And so I take on lessons from all of my patients and all my team. And I was telling my team last week, I said, you know what?

It’s great to be part of an awesome team and awesome culture. And, and we do amazing work, but there, you know, like with anything, there’s going to be times when it doesn’t go to plan. And I think that’s the, the, the strength of the culture is not when things are going right. But when things are going wrong, how does it work? How did the team come together? How do you handle it yourself? And that’s really important to know and learn and be around an environment because environment dictates performance. We know this and in sync, it’s so important to do that. And so I have to, as a leader, not see a leader for my patients, I have to do so much more to be sure that I step up and be prepared for everything. I will create a huge buffer for myself so that I can protect my own health and mental health and, and goals.

But also I’ve gotta be, you know, I’m a family man. I like to be with my family. I like to be around my team. I like to help them. And like, there’s nothing that excites me more than seeing people achieve their goals. That’s, that’s like my number one thing. I love doing that. And I love going in and just problem solving, problem, solving, problem solving as soon as things like that happen. And so, you know, sometimes it’s so funny because you know, the, you know, the advice that you should take because you give it. And it got me thinking about a concept where we think we should practice what we preach, but I think we should flip it on its head and actually preach what we practice because that makes him so much more authentic. I think that’s certainly how I live my life.

I don’t preach something that I don’t know, I’ll preach what I do, where I practice, what I put into reality. And most of the time, Hey, it’s pretty cool. It works, but, oh my gosh. Some of you know, there’s good times a good number of times, it doesn’t work. And I just think he’s going to keep going. He’s going to keep trying it out and give it a go. So my weekend, and I’ve still got to finish preparing a few more things. I’m going to prepare my lemon water. I get some lemon juice, get fresh lemons, blend it all up. I started actually adding ginger to it now. I think it’s really cool. And then I just freeze them in ice traits. So when you wake up in the morning, the first thing I do is get a glass of water like this, but that lemon ice cube, and now grow lemon and ginger ice cubes in there.

Boom, straight away you start the day with a fresh nutrient rich drink and just floods your system and cleanses the system from inside. And you feel like you already start the day with making the right decisions. I did that with the lemon and ginger last weekend and everyone loved it. So we’ll definitely get some more of that too. So things like that are really important to do. So make sure you take some time to prepare for your week ahead, but, but start by reflecting on the week you’ve had, so you can get a little bit better. You don’t have to get hugely better. Don’t do massive things. Just do a little bit more this week, this coming week then needed the week that’s just gone. And that very gets into such an addictive success winning mindset. It becomes very easy to then start doing the more you do that, the easier it gets.

And yeah, I can’t wait till tomorrow morning or the first thing I do on Monday mornings, I grab my phone as soon as I wake up and get a bed, check my emails because I’m looking out for the emails that my team will be sending me about what that goes off for the coming weekend. It’s not just about their work related goals. We actually want to know where their personal goals are so that we can support them. You know, whether it’s, they’ve got family members, special events to celebrate, or if it’s something personal, like what recently? One of our team wasn’t drinking water. They felt like, oh my gosh, my goal is to enjoy a drink with the waters. Every time I passed them, they were like, Hey, how about a water, water and cool cooler that it’s actually quite fun. So I hope that’s been useful for you.

And if you’ve got any questions, please do put them in the comments below or DME, or ping me over on Twitter. I’d love to hear from you. And I’m looking to come on live a little bit more frequently. So you’ll see a little more of me and a few more things that can help share from what I’ve been doing is my struggles, my wins, all those sort of things and kind of rind. That’s pretty cool. I like that. I might have to create a little, little tagline, but hope you have an amazing week. Hope you’ve learned something that you can take on board. And I wish you all the best, have a great week.